1943 MB 213301

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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Ralph » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:00 am

Paul,that's real restoration...they do pretty up don't they...remember the items which must bolt/screw to the firewall prior to the cardboard...that way you can by-pass the learning curve I experienced.. :oops:
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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:17 pm

I thought I did remember Ralph, but still had to pull part of the firewall pad back off! Forgot to install the wire clip for the main harness, which was good since I had to tighten the clip after I installed the harness, right? Still have to add the clip for the oil line.

Here are the original dash pad clips and screws, plus two of the repro ones at the bottom that I received from Ron with the new pad. I reused the originals, but you can see that the repro clips are a pretty close match.

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Also cleaned up the junction blocks, they were covered in Bubba's orange paint. Don't know about Fords, but MB's had brass screws to hold the wire terminal ends (at least in early '43, I believe this is true for all MB's). Here are the originals next to the repros. The color on the repros is a great match with the color on the back of the originals. I picked up some extra brass screws and the A-1089 1/4" special washers (also brass, I had one original left) from Boltdepot.com. The original washer and screws are on the bottom left in the second photo below.

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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Ralph » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:44 am

That is an impressive essay on the terminal blocks/firewall cover and their fasteners.It steps up the MB data base,not often done (relative to GPW)
The oil line retainer clip screw's nut/lock washer is under the cardboard too.I think..it's mounted lower,though.Maybe one of the reasons the composite's went to sheet metal screws...nice clean-up on the blocks,Thanks.
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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:20 pm

Like so many of these tubs, Bubba probably added a tail gate and the rear panel reinforcements were cut. You can still find NOS kits out there for the A-4646 reinforcements.

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Sand off a little OD for clean metal to weld to

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Good as new. Tried to copy the welds from the originals as best as possible.

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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:51 pm

A few photos of various parts. Here's the hand brake ratchet tube. Note that it was painted with either semi-gloss or gloss black paint, and the bolts attaching it to the behind dash brace are marked C/TR (one of them is locked in the bracket). The two bolts that hold the brace to the firewall are plain.

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Original Autolite starter (picked this up from Tom W. at Tower Park a year or two back, thanks Tom!).

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Can't be sure the TR marked bolts are 100% right for early '43, but I believe they are as the replacement switch that was on the jeep had one of these installed (the second bolt was corroded beyond recognition of any marking), and the Autolite switch I got from Tom had one installed, so I'm good with it. I would expect either TR or C/TR from the other parts like this that were installed on MBs at this time.

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Headlight foot switch (dimmer) floor seal plate, seal, and hardware. Got the asphalt seal from Ron, really nice (he lists the rubber on the site but reach out to him). The hardware looks parkarized to me, though it doesn't mention that in the parts manuals (maybe it's in the federal spec, which is listed?).
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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:37 pm

Delete - posted twice
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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:08 pm

Picked up a full wire harness kit from Ron. The quality of this set is excellent and everything so far has fit perfectly (I understand this current set is from a U.S. supplier, though I don't know which one). Highly recommend.

As many have said, definitely want to wire the main light switch off vehicle and start from there.

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Also tried to clean up the Solar filterette for this MB. This item was heavily corroded, so all I did was de-rust and clean up with some paint, and not pursue trying to recover or reapply the original stampings and such. Maybe if I pick up a better candidate some day I will. Capacitors all are conductive. Still need to clean up the cover and then I'll give a blast of OD in place. Mounting bolts are C/TR marked which I plated in zinc.

The filterette uses two different amp rating capacitors, two are higher amp, one lower. On a Solar filterette, you can tell which one is which by the orientation of the external rivets and the case.

Note: a wise Gee member reminded me of the proper orientation of the starter switch bolts on an MB of this vintage (bolt heads down, nuts upwards), so I turned those around...

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Here's a good factory photo showing the MB starter bolts, with the nuts up...

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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:06 pm

All of the basics installed, firewall view. The oil line is original (just cleaned up a lot), the fuel line is from Ron -

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Underside view of the ACM1 tub. Certainly a few differences between this and the GPWs or the ACM2 standardized tub. Note the wire harness doesn't have as many tabs and there is a harness clip attached to the rear foot rest bolt.

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My collection of ACM1 tub mounting hardware. Note the toothed/shakeproof washers weren't on Type I suppression, it's much simpler. All the flat washers are original from this tub as are the A marked bolts. The long TR bolts are repros (thanks Ralph!) that I recut as NC, tougher for me to find these long ones and my originals were rusted away to nothing and snapped in two with almost no torque. The black ones are Caterpillars that I ground the markings off. These will do until I find some originals of the right spec, all the original tub to frame bolts I found on this early '43 MB were marked "A"

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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Ralph » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:25 pm

Looks like a little over half-way down the line at Toledo...
A satisfying time for you now,run-up to the road test...it all looks just great,thanks for the pics.
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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:49 pm

Thanks Ralph - slowly but surely. Now it's one component at a time. I'll post some photos as the new parts are added. And a road test is getting a lot closer :D
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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Mark Jesic » Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:10 am

That is really looking the part Beers, if i had done that i would be extremely proud, well done. :D

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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:03 am

Thank you Mark for the kind comments, much appreciated! You know how these jeeps are a labor of love :D
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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Mark Jesic » Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:16 pm

Very much so Beers, mine isnt a hobby, its an obsession according to my better half. (she is right). :lol:

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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:09 pm

Obsession? Ain't that the truth!!! :lol:
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Re: 1943 MB 213301

Post by Beers » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:48 pm

A few quick photos, putting on the pedals and then on to some of the bonding straps.

The two straps under the tub. Couldn't nail down whether there were washers needed on the mount to the tub, though this is how the strap was attached when I took the tub off, which I strongly believe was the first time (at least in civilian life) it had been off...

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Willys/MB style pedal setup. I believe GPWs just used a single thick felt washer? The washers and springs are original, just replated with zinc, the felt is from Ron.

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