vep tub Q"s
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vep tub Q"s
vep script and later script tubs----other than the early one has a flat, no ribbed area behind tool box are there any other differences? thanks steve
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Re: vep tub Q"s
That's a lllooonnnggg winded answer. There's a difference in the glovebox floor. The back of the tub is scripted (of course), the braces for the tail lights are vertical instead of horizonal, the hat channels on the bottom are different. There are some differences in the glovebox doors. There's less holes in the dash (as the blackout light switch wasn't there, and the push/pull light swich has one hole vs two)
I'm sure I'm missing some stuff.
I'm sure I'm missing some stuff.
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Re: vep tub Q"s
Steven i am not sure what your question is regarding Script. You say Vep script and later script. Does later script mean the ford script on the back of the tub panel that was made up untill about July-42? Or are you refering to f marked tubs. Thanks Roger
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Re: vep tub Q"s
yes Rodger the ford scripted rear panel up to june/july compared to the early vep ones
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GPW 227 DOD 2/42 2062315 (actual) & US NAVY 195086 hood numbers
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GPW 227 DOD 2/42 2062315 (actual) & US NAVY 195086 hood numbers
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Re: vep tub Q"s
Thanks Steven and Chuck. I always refer to this chart as it shows that all Script ford tubs as the same except for the rib buy the tool box lids. The glove box door difference i assume would be locking and non locking. I was unaware of different holes in the dash for Script tubs.
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Re: vep tub Q"s
Isn't the hole in the glove box door for the lock drilled lower, and the latch mechanism on the body different on the early ones.
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The glove bod doors are different:
...and the dash for a push-button door has a small RH slotted screw just above where the door is mounted to adjust the HEIGHT of the metal tongue the push-type button latches onto. The early key-locking type does not have this feature on the dash above the clove box door...Chuck Lutz
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Re: vep tub Q"s
When did the key gove box lock change to the push button, looking at your DOD sometime late 42? Think that was in the All American Wonder Books.
Does anybody have a copy of the index somebody on the Gee here made for these books? I believe the maker sent me one years ago, cant find it now.
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1943 MB 213301 DOD 2-22-43
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Re: vep tub Q"s
Willys changed to the push-button at MB 137909 in April, 1942.
Ford changed prior to 4/24/42 since that is the DOD of my GPW-17963 which has a push-button lock. (some differences due to FILO/LIFO will effect the date/Serial number changes at each factory)
Ford changed prior to 4/24/42 since that is the DOD of my GPW-17963 which has a push-button lock. (some differences due to FILO/LIFO will effect the date/Serial number changes at each factory)
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Re: vep tub Q"s
The book is wrong on the glove box door changeover. My Script GPW #30337 doesn't have the hole in the dash for the glove box push button tab, so the door is the correct one. This just shows the GPW factory assembly at the different plants, and Ford not using engine assemblys in any particular order, makes tracing the change overs into an estimate of time lines. According to Tom, the rear panel blue drab USA number corresponds to the date of delivery, 6/1/1942 and the data plate stamping. It was built in Louisville KY. The Serial number is stamped on the drivers side engine mount plate.
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The BOOK is NOT wrong on the changeover, Nabholtz says when the WILLYS line switched over, he does not mention GPWs at all. Ford would have had a use-until-exhausted policy at each plant until the key-lock tubs were used up.
In the case of GPW-30377, the motor was quite possibly according to the same basic FILO/LIFO system that other factories were seeing which would probably have gotten it to Louisville anywhere up to three weeks +/- prior to the DOD, the reason it has that early tub is more likely due to Louisville having more of them still around ...
In the case of GPW-30377, the motor was quite possibly according to the same basic FILO/LIFO system that other factories were seeing which would probably have gotten it to Louisville anywhere up to three weeks +/- prior to the DOD, the reason it has that early tub is more likely due to Louisville having more of them still around ...
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Re: vep tub Q"s
Chuck, you are right on with the Ford change-over differences at the different assembly plants. My Nabholtz, is my favorite jeep book, you were right about what he said there too, and considering how long ago it was done, & IMHO I think he is still one of the best references. I still can't believe the bebe-oil filter thing made it into AAW and is still there.
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No one has ever published a "revised edition" that I know of. If they have, I'd like to get one and compare the two.David Neale wrote:... I still can't believe the bebe-oil filter thing made it into AAW and is still there.
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