Tail light socket rubber caps
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Re: Tail light socket rubber caps
Al, Paolo has released TWO KINDS of rubber boots for lamp-to-connectors as an insulation or weatherproofing...
1) the FOUR that go on the taillight buckets
2) the TWO that go on the slat grill BO lamps in the grill
Evidently this extra info confused Tom but it is important to me to differentiate the two items Paolo has available....
Ford does call for:
GPW 13461-A GROMMET - REAR LAMP TO BODY A-627 (1) I believe these are the TWO grommets between the taillight buckets and the rear panel......but note that the book only calls for ONE!
GPW 14496-A SEAL - TAILLIGHT SOCKET - BLACKOUT A-729 (2) I believe these are the rubber boots (sleeves) covering the wiring connection on the back of the taillight buckets......but note that the book only calls for ONE!
So as usual, no one can count at Ford and the description of the GPW 14496-A item is confusing at best with "taillight socket" and then "blackout" next to it....when taillight "housing" is a term used two pages previously to describe the tailight bucket.
Sorry.... You never got the answer you were looking for so Ian and I attempted to be of assistance, sorting out the mistakes in the manuals and the appearance of TWO different products from Paolo. I think it's clearer now, but the drawings and possibly when these two items above went away is sitting in a box in someone's storeroom I guess???????????????
1) the FOUR that go on the taillight buckets
2) the TWO that go on the slat grill BO lamps in the grill
Evidently this extra info confused Tom but it is important to me to differentiate the two items Paolo has available....
Ford does call for:
GPW 13461-A GROMMET - REAR LAMP TO BODY A-627 (1) I believe these are the TWO grommets between the taillight buckets and the rear panel......but note that the book only calls for ONE!
GPW 14496-A SEAL - TAILLIGHT SOCKET - BLACKOUT A-729 (2) I believe these are the rubber boots (sleeves) covering the wiring connection on the back of the taillight buckets......but note that the book only calls for ONE!
So as usual, no one can count at Ford and the description of the GPW 14496-A item is confusing at best with "taillight socket" and then "blackout" next to it....when taillight "housing" is a term used two pages previously to describe the tailight bucket.
Sorry.... You never got the answer you were looking for so Ian and I attempted to be of assistance, sorting out the mistakes in the manuals and the appearance of TWO different products from Paolo. I think it's clearer now, but the drawings and possibly when these two items above went away is sitting in a box in someone's storeroom I guess???????????????
Chuck Lutz
GPW 17963 4/24/42 Chester, PA. USA 20113473 (USA est./Tom W.)
Bantam T3-C 1947
GPW 17963 4/24/42 Chester, PA. USA 20113473 (USA est./Tom W.)
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Re: Tail light socket rubber caps
Hi Chuck,
Ian's post is perfectly clear, as are the others. It was you who got confused, from what I could see. My original post was "tail light socket rubber caps" and I am not sure why you changed that to BO marker lights in the grill. As for the grommets, I mentioned them previously and Tom established the part number. As for the quantity, my Ford parts list (as mentioned further back) says 2 required and it also says "blackout".
I hope Ian can find the photos of the GPW he saw with the remains of the seals in place. It sounds as if it was similar to mine and I know it had 4 fitted.
Regards
Al
Ian's post is perfectly clear, as are the others. It was you who got confused, from what I could see. My original post was "tail light socket rubber caps" and I am not sure why you changed that to BO marker lights in the grill. As for the grommets, I mentioned them previously and Tom established the part number. As for the quantity, my Ford parts list (as mentioned further back) says 2 required and it also says "blackout".
I hope Ian can find the photos of the GPW he saw with the remains of the seals in place. It sounds as if it was similar to mine and I know it had 4 fitted.
Regards
Al
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GPW 53126
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Bantam T3 36501
Part of the G since early '98
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Re: Tail light socket rubber caps
When I hear/read the phrase "BO LIGHT SOCKET", the first thing I try to figure out is if they mean FENDER BO Light, GRILL BO LIGHTS or TAILLIGHT BUCKET BO LAMPS....
Sorry I tried to be of assisstance.
Sorry I tried to be of assisstance.
Chuck Lutz
GPW 17963 4/24/42 Chester, PA. USA 20113473 (USA est./Tom W.)
Bantam T3-C 1947
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Re: Tail light socket rubber caps
Hi Chuck,
I've no doubt your intentions were honorable but it helps to read the previous posts before you jump in, otherwise it ends up all confused like this did.
Al
I've no doubt your intentions were honorable but it helps to read the previous posts before you jump in, otherwise it ends up all confused like this did.
Al
D. Alasdair Brass
New Zealand.
MVPA 5676
GPW 53126
MB 290463
Bantam T3 36501
Part of the G since early '98
New Zealand.
MVPA 5676
GPW 53126
MB 290463
Bantam T3 36501
Part of the G since early '98
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Re: Tail light socket rubber caps
Hello Al & Tom,
This part is a mystery one
Parts in the 14*** series are the wiring parts and not the lamps or switches so the rubber boot relates to the wiring ends.
GP 14496-A would indicate a GP part carried over with the first change (A) but I can't find it in the 2 parts books ( March & October 1941) I have for the GP
Guess Ford messed up the quantity
I not Paulo lists them with GPW part number
Regards
This part is a mystery one
Parts in the 14*** series are the wiring parts and not the lamps or switches so the rubber boot relates to the wiring ends.
GP 14496-A would indicate a GP part carried over with the first change (A) but I can't find it in the 2 parts books ( March & October 1941) I have for the GP
Guess Ford messed up the quantity
I not Paulo lists them with GPW part number
Regards
Michael Browne
Heron Hill Motorpool
REAL jeeps have BAR GRILLES and FLAT FENDERS. The rest are imitations.
Heron Hill Motorpool
REAL jeeps have BAR GRILLES and FLAT FENDERS. The rest are imitations.
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Re: Tail light socket rubber caps
Has this mystery ever been solved? Just curious because I have an unrestored Nov 42 GPW76070, and it has rubber boots on all four tail light sockets that need to be replaced.
It's a preservation project, and I'd like to keep it as close to original as possible.
It's a preservation project, and I'd like to keep it as close to original as possible.
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Re: Tail light socket rubber caps
Thats the ones Dexter!
Where can we see more of this wonderful GPW?
Ian.
Where can we see more of this wonderful GPW?
Ian.
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GPW: 11730.
GPW: 225290.
Aust trailer: GMH 3- #211
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Re: Tail light socket rubber caps
Stay tuned, Ian! You documentations of several unrestored gems inspired me to take detailed photos.
So, who sells these rubber boots?
Dexter
So, who sells these rubber boots?
Dexter
Ian Fawbert wrote:Thats the ones Dexter!
Where can we see more of this wonderful GPW?
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Re: Tail light socket rubber caps
I look forward to that mate! Just remember, and it seemss you are luckier than I was, take a photo of everything and you can never be too close to photograph part of something! I realised now that I had forgotten to take shots of so many things! Luckily, you can go outside to the garage (I guess!) and take another photo, the jeeps I saw are on the other side of the world, or country or I don't know where they went!
Cheers,
Ian.
Cheers,
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MB: 131175
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GPW: 225290.
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MB: 131175
GPW: 11730.
GPW: 225290.
Aust trailer: GMH 3- #211
http://www.vintageengines.net
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