4 wheel steer GP

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by Michael Browne » Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:43 pm

Hello Maurizio,

I'm a bit confused :? :? what do you mean by a mess around March 1941 :?: Or is the modified list a mess :lol: :lol: with Sept & Oct at the top :?

Ford GP production was really hitting the straps in March with quite a lot of jeeps being assembled/delivered.

I have 8616 with dod March 6th - original plate

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by Jim Gilmore » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:01 pm

David wrote,

"...Jim, what were the body/chassis/motor numbers for the 4WS production?.."

There is of course, only one number on any Ford of this time period..the motor number. The body/chassis number was always the motor number.

There is no number breakdown for which were 4WS or 2WS. there are occasional notations in the daily production reports as to 4WS but not all.

"..Do you have a photo of your original 4WS 15240 to post?..."

I haven't found the album with the GP photos yet.....

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by acmack » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:51 pm

Jim, any photos handy of the 6 or 7 other GPs in your collection? :D David
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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by pierino » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:46 pm

Tom wrote:Hi Jim,

You ask
What is assembly order.?
The assembly order is the order in which GPs were assembled. Like 1st GP down the assembly line then...

always known that GP's were built in assembly islands rather than in a line... :shock:

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1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by Jim Gilmore » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:06 pm

Jim, any photos handy of the 6 or 7 other GPs in your collection? :D David


Humm...I'm beginning to think you don't believe I own any GP's... :-)

I'll dig some out or go over to my storage and shoot a few of the three that are there this weekend.

in the mean time...here's a photo of Brian Wolf's GP...just one of several I have of it.....(and about 40 + other GP's in WW II )

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by acmack » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:43 pm

Jim, interesting, looks like they mounted the spare wheel on the side at one time. Looks like 5.50 bent bars on vehicle and a 6.00 ND spare. David
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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by pierino » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:12 am

Jim Gilmore wrote:...
I'll dig some out or go over to my storage and shoot a few of the three that are there this weekend.

Jim, do you want me to post shoots I got when we met in Belvidere and we went to your storage? :wink:

here's a photo of Brian Wolf's GP...Jim Gilmore

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AH! lucky Brian!!! :shock: ...don't forget to give an eye to USA W-2030399 ... :wink:

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1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by Jim Gilmore » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:52 pm

Maurizio,

Yes go ahead and post them...that will save me a trip.....

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Post by Jim Gilmore » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:57 pm

"...don't forget to give an eye to USA W-2030399 ..."

I will .....I do have 2030355.....Ford photo 11/41......close....

You should let me know the USA numbers of your other vehicles...I have many other types on my lists...

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by pierino » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:45 pm

Jim Gilmore wrote:Maurizio,
Yes go ahead and post them...that will save me a trip.....
Jim Thorpe, PA.

here you have: the red one is GP9048, 3 25 41... the blue one might be 4 24 41 and might be GP9891 ...but here picture I took of the data plate is very bad and I can't make it for sure...

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1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by pierino » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:07 pm

Jim Gilmore wrote:"...don't forget to give an eye to USA W-2030399 ..."

I will .....I do have 2030355.....Ford photo 11/41......close....

You should let me know the USA numbers of your other vehicles...I have many other types on my lists...
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vehicles I'm sure of their USA numbers are:

GP15594 -> USA W 2030399 (really, I just found USA 2030399, "W" dropped...but they were white letters and so maybe a later paint job)
Converto -> USA 0877889
Cushman Package Kar -> USA 6126522

then, a veeeeery good guess is with GPW 186225 -> USA 20518894 (as I know for sure of GPW 186220 with USA 20518889)

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1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by Jim Gilmore » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:32 pm

Maurizio,

Did you take a photo of the Carburator on the blue/green GP?

Maybe you can post that photo ....

I paid $700.00 for that GP with a parts GP thrown in with it.

The Red GP I bought for $300.00 just because it had the original horn!

...and it runs....

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by Rory Grenier » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:09 pm

Jim, You make me sick !!!!!!!!! Let me guess, The GP for $700 had a Holley 847D on it ? Looks good

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by Jim Gilmore » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:45 pm

Let me guess, The GP for $700 had a Holley 847D on it ? ........


Well ...yes....Gee...why else would I pay so much for it !!!


Now , the first GP I bought I paid a lot more for , $1,100.00 .... because it was really great shape, all matching, came with a parts GP and... this......

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Re: 4 wheel steer GP

Post by Michael Browne » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:55 pm

Hello Jim

Got to love these great finds :wink: :wink:

Now I should come over for a few months and help you get them all smartened up :) I'm cheap to feed :) :)

Great collection

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