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Radio Jeep ID?

Post by Bob W » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:32 pm

A friend of mine has a radio jeep that hasn't run in a while. Which type of radio jeep is this? I'm thinking a regular G503 that was converted?

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Post by tractor12 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:21 pm

Looks like an USMC radio jeep so either nom 12 or mz 1 or 2. You can tell by the triangler piece by the drivers seat. Should also have a oval hole in the glove box
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Post by Mark Tombleson » Thu Oct 26, 2017 8:55 pm

Contract radio MZ for sure and looks to have had a 1947 or 49 kit installed.

Bob... you know the drill... photos of the right places and all the numbers (body, fame, engine, etc.). :D

Start with the body number and gusset type:

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Look at this threads... there are dozens of similar.

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=268897&start=45

https://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=162205

It has a spare tire foot so MZ-1 or later... if it is original.

One item to look for in those threads is the hinged glove box door... not correct for a radio jeep as you will see but the rivets on the data plate are very similar to ones installed by the USMC. They are silk screened or look like they are and so far not stamped so look carefully at the center one. :D

Oh, check for numbers on the drivers side hood and the passenger side above and below the grab bar. Scrape all the drive train enough to see the original paint, is it forest green

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Post by Bob W » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:34 am

The hinged glove box door was confusing me. I need to make a trip back over there when I have more time to check for all the numbers. How would you attack the data plate to avoid damaging it?
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Post by Mark Tombleson » Fri Oct 27, 2017 5:51 am

Don't know...

here is the plate from that thread.

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Post by tractor12 » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:40 am

Someone at tower park showed me how to clean a Cushman data plate with layers of civilian paint. He used brake cleaner and the paint wiped away
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Post by kdmann143 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:19 am

Seems like Gpw cross member and
Gpw style data plates rivets .
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Post by Mark Tombleson » Sun Oct 29, 2017 9:54 am

Good eye !
Looks that way to me also.

When Bob reports back with the numbers we will know.
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Re: Radio Jeep ID?

Post by kdmann143 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:25 pm

Gpw frame for sure .
Also has holes in rear bumper .
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Re: Radio Jeep ID?

Post by Bob W » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:51 pm

I went over to take another look, interesting stuff. The center data plate has about 3 or 4 layers of paint that is chipping off right down to the bare aluminum. I tried to carefully remove the paint in layers to no avail. There are no stamped numbers on the plate that I can see.

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The front crossmember.


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Engine serial number GPW-195736


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ACM number 3502


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Frame number <->195736*


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Undercoating???


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I think I see filled holes for radio box brackets???


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I did not see a hole in the glove box floor until I looked at this photo taken from the under side. Looks like there was a hole that has been filled.


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Cowl support wire bracket.
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Re: Radio Jeep ID?

Post by Mark Tombleson » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:42 pm

Well, we need to review this thread again...

http://g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=264634

This appears to be a NOM-12 body on a GPW. The other option is this is a factory GPW radio jeep.

Kam, what are the nine and frame numbers on your GPW?

I see you are using the numbers on your sig line of USMC 48649, the one photo of a radio GPW.

Oh, don't feel bad Bob... you are not the first with a unmarked data plate with that type rivet... I've seen a couple of others.

Great photos, mid range NOM-12 body number, and yes, the asphalt emulsion undercoating.
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Re: Radio Jeep ID?

Post by Bob W » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:50 am

I'm not a Ford guy, but shouldn't there be a "GPW" prefix on the frame number?
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