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Post by Farrell Fox » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:52 pm

What are these holes for?

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Post by Robin » Sun Sep 07, 2014 5:27 pm

I didn't have those holes in my MZ-2.
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Re: U.S.M.C. MZ-2 Radio Jeep restoration.

Post by Mark Tombleson » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:52 am

That is my MZ-1 tub and I can't remember and will look tomorrow and let you know as it is too late tonight.

I looked this morning... the holes are not used so I thru the photo up on the Tech board with no results.

You all know my memory is poor but I did research those holes back when I restored my tub, so I put 2 and 2 together and looked at the only explanation that I could remember, they were for cable clamps. I confirmed this by looking at the early tub (MB-NOM-12 and early MZ-1) that installed the power supply in the offside box and routed the cables around the back of the rear seat box as shown in the plan view, Drawing 121 on page 506 of Volume 2 of Lloyd's book.

Farrell , as your MZ-2 did not put the power supply in the offside box your tub was never equipped with those holes.

I must admit is was very tight behind that box and I see now one reason they installed those wood spacers under the box... to give clearance for the clamp fasteners.
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Post by Farrell Fox » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:20 pm

So if I understand correctly, they moved the power supply from the right side cabinet to the rear seat box on the MZ-2?

I don't have these holes on my MZ-2, and was a little puzzled.

I need to get Lloyd's book, as it sounds like it has some good info.
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Post by Fred Coldwell » Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:59 am

F. R. Fox wrote: . . . I need to get Lloyd's book, as it sounds like it has some good info.
Farrell:

Lloyd's Volume 2 of "The Evolution of the Willys-Overland MB Jeep" has virtually all the information and many of the documents Mark and I have collected over the past decade on Navy/USMC radio jeeps from 1942 to 1949. That information was updated earlier this year to be current as of the June 2014 publication date. There is no better nor more concentrated data on the WW II Navy/USMC radio jeeps than the 246 pages devoted to them in Lloyd's Volume 2.
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Post by Farrell Fox » Tue Sep 09, 2014 7:51 am

Excellent, thanks Fred. I'll be placing and order for one as soon as I can. Can't wait to see what you and Mark have contributed!
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Post by Farrell Fox » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:39 pm

Recent Tower Park acquisitions. J-45 leg key, MP-37 antenna base cover and NOS brown Autolite rotor. Also picked up a few other things but they are MIA in a box somewhere.......

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Post by Fred Coldwell » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:43 pm

Farrell:

That's the way to keep chipping away at that big rectangular block of neck leather, and before you know it you will have liberated a complete MZ-2 radio jeep. :D :D :lol:
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Post by Farrell Fox » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:50 pm

Lol! I know it seems like mouse bites at a time. At times it is. I've actually got a rather large find for this jeep, I've been waiting for it to arrive to post it here. A find I'm quite proud of, quite frankly.

I finally got around to ordering Lloyd White's Vol. 2. Can't wait to see it!
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Post by Farrell Fox » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:59 pm

On the MZ-2 glove box data tag, in the field left blank for Supply Arm or Service, is it supposed to be stamped NAVY? If so, does anyone have a photo of such an example?
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Re: U.S.M.C. MZ-2 Radio Jeep restoration.

Post by Robin » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:33 pm

Mine says NAVY. I'll get a picture soon.
41 M3 37mm A/T gun
42 M1A1 75mm pack how
43 MBT trailer
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43 WC62
44 Chevy 1.5 ton
44 MZ2 USMC radio Jeep
44 RL35 reel cart
44 K38 trailer
43 K52 trailer
43 M3A4 handcarts(8)
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Re: U.S.M.C. MZ-2 Radio Jeep restoration.

Post by Farrell Fox » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:47 pm

Excellent, thank you, Robin.
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Re: U.S.M.C. MZ-2 Radio Jeep restoration.

Post by Mark Tombleson » Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:03 am

Here is the one off of Lloyd's MZ-2.

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Post by Farrell Fox » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:51 am

Mark,

That's exactly what I was looking for. Is Lloyd's glove box door one you based yours off of? Does it have the mounting brackets spot welded to the back?
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Re: U.S.M.C. MZ-2 Radio Jeep restoration.

Post by Mark Tombleson » Sat Oct 18, 2014 10:33 am

Robin did mine using his original!

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Lloyd's was missing the bottom brackets.
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