imports

[chuckh]

So how can you guys import this stuff and us armor guys can't bring back a rusty Sherman tank?

Chuck

[D W Lyles]

Chuck lets put some wing and a tail section on old tanks and call it a heavy armor aircraft. LOL Dennis

[L-4JFlyer]

Chuck,

In regards to aircraft, it all depends on what you are bringing in, where it's coming from, who made it, where was it used, etc. I was trying to bring in a couple US made jets from a country, and could not because they were made in the US, used by the US, then given to another country. In the meantime, had they stayed in the US I would not have a problem owning them.

After 9/11, all airplanes owned by the government (at any time) were in the mix with all the other "demil" equipment on the bill the gov't was considering. I would have had to destroy my L-4, because it was registered as an L-4. While other L-4s that were registered as J-3s after being surplussed, would not have to be de-mil'd. After all a Piper Cub in O.D. is much more capable of being a terroristic weapon than one painted yellow!

Does any of it really make sense? Nope!

Jim

[chuckh]

US made WWII aircraft are brought in all the time. Every month the aircraft rags do a feature on a recently imported aircraft. In fact this new board mentions a P-47 being imported from the UK back to the US.

Once again how can this be done? What is the difference between armor and a wwii fighter aircraft of bomber?

Chuck H

[rwdfresno]

The majority of the US aircraft that are brought back into this country are already on the US civilian registry which I guess makes it a little easier because at some point they were already owned and operated in the United States by civilian owners. There is also usually a very good chain of ownershipo when it comes to aircraft since aircraft registration records are maintained very well in most countries.

[alleramilitaria]

the armor ban just after WWII was put into place to protect ford, GM, etc from loosing the farm and heavy eqp. industry like what happened in europe. you didnt want the farmers snapping up $400 halftracks instead of new $2000 tractors. yes there were some tanks and other gear sold and used as heavy equiptment, but it was not nearly as widespread as in the rest of the world.

[Derek Eddlestone]

the armor ban just after WWII was put into place to protect ford, GM, etc from loosing the farm and heavy eqp. industry like what happened in europe. you didnt want the farmers snapping up $400 halftracks instead of new $2000 tractors. yes there were some tanks and other gear sold and used as heavy equiptment, but it was not nearly as widespread as in the rest of the world.

I think you'll find that the reason the US manufacturers bought in was because the Lend-Lease Agreement stipulated that what was exported as assistance to the Allied war effort stayed exported for the very reason that you listed. Who'd buy a new car when a jeep would cost a fraction of the price ? In Europe, a lot of companies were started using War Surplus and as this equipment wore out, the local manufacturers were able to take over.

Derek.

[chuckh]

The armor ban was not enforced until the clinton administration took office. No political statement here just the facts. You can bring all the foreign armor you can afford.

Chuck

[Johan Van Keer]

Maybe all the planes are demiled? No weapons in them? While a tank without a canon looks rather foolish? No?

Second part, even a WWII armor vehicle protects the user agains common police weapons. While any aircraft is no match against what the airforce has.

Just a thought.

Johan

[chuckh]

you can demil the gun so it becomes essentialy a big pipe. This is what is done to the foreign made stuff.

Chuck

[Chris Warne]

In fact this new board mentions a P-47 being imported from the UK back to the US.

Chuck H

This is the Duxford based Fighter Collections P-47 'No Guts, No Glory' - will be sadly missed!