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Sherman update (19MAY18) and she's running

Post by DoctorCheney223 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:33 pm

The inside of the Sherman was in bad shape so all of the sheet metal was pulled. My guys have been welding all the rockets holes and one side is cleaned up while the other needs the finish grinding. The basket and all of what I will assume to be shell holders and power boxes were in bad shape so my guys pulled everything. Tomorrow it all goes to the scrap yard and we will making plans to pull the turret and get everything sandblasted.

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Re: Gutted the Sherman today

Post by SDEREN » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:49 am

You should save all of the conduit ends. If you don't want them I'll take them!! Don't be too quick to through stuff away!!!!

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Post by artillerydan » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:04 am

YEAH!!!! DONT SCRAP!!!

LOTS of bits are still good let alone for patterns. unless you are out of space. Hell Ill come up and give you scrap $$ for the pile and haul it off.
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Re: Gutted the Sherman today (another pic)

Post by DoctorCheney223 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:50 pm

We found these inside the Sherman yesterday. I am assuming these were for a fire suppression system.


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Post by 37mm40mm » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:24 pm

Where did you get your Sherman.....she is fairly shot up.....
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Post by airborne-53 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:33 pm

artillerydan wrote:YEAH!!!! DONT SCRAP!!!

LOTS of bits are still good let alone for patterns. unless you are out of space. Hell Ill come up and give you scrap $$ for the pile and haul it off.
sound better than scap :wink:
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Re: Gutted the Sherman today (another pic)

Post by SDEREN » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:04 am

I could use a bottle for our restoration.

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Post by brian in denver » Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:30 am

dont throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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Re: Gutted the Sherman today (another pic)

Post by DoctorCheney223 » Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:38 pm

I pulled all the Sherman metal before the guys took it down for scrap. We have to PMCS a whole fleet of vehicles every day of the week and don't have time to separate or pull parts and load them onto a pellet. Anybody live close to Vegas?
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Post by 37mm40mm » Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:11 pm

You could make some time.....throw it in a tot or wire pallet and I can have it shipped like that
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Re: Gutted the Sherman today (another pic)

Post by DoctorCheney223 » Sun Apr 19, 2015 2:10 pm

Here is what I presume is the final drive. There are no rocket holes in the final drive but you can clearly see some sort of braking mechanism bar that was severed on the left side. The other portion is still attached. I am hoping to keep the final drive in the vehicle and just replace all of the suspension. Unfortunately, the right and left sprockets have been damaged beyond repair so I will need new ones as well.

Barrel is demilled :|

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Re: Gutted the Sherman today (new pics 19APR15)

Post by nirvana » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:30 am

That big thing going across the front is called the controlled differential. It operates like the differential on a car, except that it has brake bands that slow down one side, and transfer power to the other, allowing the vehicle to steer. The final drives are on the outward ends of the differential, onto which the sprockets bolt. The final drive is a reduction gear system which convert sthe high speed rotation of the final drive into a slower speed that will drive the tracks without throwing them off. Its probably a 4 to 1 reduction?

I'm not as familiar with the Sherman, but I believe that the rod and lever that are busted off control the diffential's brake bands. It will need to be repaired, and properly, or else there will be some issues down the road.

Is the whole front end (transmission, differential) filled with water or not?

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Post by DoctorCheney223 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 5:53 pm

nirvana wrote:That big thing going across the front is called the controlled differential. It operates like the differential on a car, except that it has brake bands that slow down one side, and transfer power to the other, allowing the vehicle to steer. The final drives are on the outward ends of the differential, onto which the sprockets bolt. The final drive is a reduction gear system which convert sthe high speed rotation of the final drive into a slower speed that will drive the tracks without throwing them off. Its probably a 4 to 1 reduction?

I'm not as familiar with the Sherman, but I believe that the rod and lever that are busted off control the diffential's brake bands. It will need to be repaired, and properly, or else there will be some issues down the road.

Is the whole front end (transmission, differential) filled with water or not?
The front end is actually intact. We checked the dipstick that is on the right side of it and still had some residual oil in i, no rust.
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Re: Gutted the Sherman today (new pics 06MAY15)

Post by DoctorCheney223 » Wed May 06, 2015 10:02 am

These pics are from last week when the suspension was removed. My guys have started scaling the heavy rust inside the hull to make the job easier for the sandblaster that will do everything where it's at. The sandblaster will build a "tent" around the entire tank and do his thing.

Also, my guys built a rolling cradle to hold the turret when it gets pulled.

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Re: Gutted the Sherman today (new pics 06MAY15)

Post by nirvana » Wed May 06, 2015 11:17 am

Yea, you certainly are in Vegas. That is rocket damage for sure. At least it wasn't high explosive, or large caliber solid shot, that would've warped the hell. Most of those look like easy to repair holes.

Two things are notable to me about this tank.

The added armor on the right side, at the front, isn't the standard pattern that is commonly seen. It makes me wonder where it was applied, and when. They are usually smaller rectangle pieces, like this:
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There also looks to be little metal nubs on the two hull hatches. I can tell if its a photo illusion, and it really just spall damage, or if its something else. My thoughts go to a modification that was done in the pacific theater, where tanks had metal spikes welded onto the tops of their hatches, to limit some types of attacks by the Japanese. If the spikes were cut off, they would look like what you have there. I hate to use a model to illustrate this, but its the best photo I could find on google. Do the upper hatches have these same metal nubs on them? Would it be possible to get better pictures?
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