WTB: Correct GPW top

[gearhead]

Wow! I want to see that 3 in. grommet!

Ed s

[Joe Gopan]

Thanks.

[Chuck Lutz]

Let's recap!

1) All jeeps began with a push-type fastener on the windshield and for the top bow flaps.
2) At MB-164554 Willys changed to a "Capstan" type fastener on the windshield
3) As per Tom W. Ford did not change to a capstan fastener during WWII
4) The grommets for the windshield fasteners and the top flap fasteners are the same

[Joe Friday]

And the manufacturers term is an eyelet and washer combination, not a grommet.

[Joe Gopan]

And I installed push button on my MB as they are the most secure. It's kinda murky to decipher in the GTB/GPW manuals, but GTB used Capstan studs like the ones I illustrated. am positive these were shared with GPW at one time. I have salvaged probably a hundred of the studs from fresh salvage GTB's back in the 50's-60's.

[Farrell Fox]

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[Joe Gopan]

There are going to be owners who use either type, I got criticized because I used push buttons, but the choice was simple, the tops will not blow off.

[Chuck Lutz]

Again....99.99% of the time.

If the top blows off either type studs it is necause the windshield frame is bent. Stop blathering!

[Chuck Lutz]

Bend your w'shield frame back an inch or two then go for a drive at 35 or 40. See if it stays on or not

[gearhead]

I have this to add...
My 45 GPW has capstan type, windshield is original G503 on jeep when I bought it, factory? I have no idea, and it is correct for the vacuum wipers..
Heck the late GPWs had the least Ford parts anyway, a lot happens over the years.
Anyway......my windshield frame is straight, I have a nice Beechwood top, it stays on @ 65mph on the trailer.

Hmmmm...... I must look at my spare frame........

Ed S

[Joe Gopan]

I think I have been around WWII Jeeps long enough to know that the correct fasteners have a lot to do with the top staying in place.

[Chuck Lutz]

Obviously you have no idea about how fast a bent windshield frame will slacken in the wind and lift off either fastenter you choose. As has been posted above, a bent windshield frame is more likely to be found than one with the exact factory angle on it.

Stop snowing the newbies Joel....the problem is almost always the bent windshield unless, as I mentioned above, someone drills the fastener holes in the wrong location on the frame.

...and NO...since according to YOU yourself, you have no experience with a top coming off...how can you have a legitimate opinion in the first place? Blaming it on "the correct fasteners" is hogwash since people who have tops from the major canvas mfgers that have bent their frames to the correct angle have NO problem with fasteners you hint at being incorrect.

Like you and only you on Planet Earth have the "correct fasteners" or something?

Hey...top comes off because it has so much slack from a bent windshield it billows up and off the fasteners...what part of that do you not understand? At the same time, guys who have a frame at the right angle have no problem with the tops from the same mfgers?

[gearhead]

My GPW, yeah I drive all year round, weather permitting!

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Ed S

[Joe Gopan]

After 7 decades with the Jeep and army truck business I have encountered much that you have yet to experience Chuck.
There have been many repro tops sold over the years that do not stay fastened due to the attaching hardware.

If the major diameter of the stud does not match the I.D. of the grommets, the hardware is incorrect.

[Joe Gopan]

I guess we should refer to them as top/Curtain Eyelets.

I have a listing for the Cinch part number for A-3111, and A-3112, bot NOT A-3113.

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There is something to be learned here. The "barrel grommets have a "cylindrical" inner dimension.
Those of you with original WWII Issue Windshield Covers and A-3216 wartime manufactured Jeep tops will be able to view the grommets used during that period.