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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by 17thAirborne » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:44 pm

BATMOBILE1 wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:51 am
17thAirborne wrote:
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Brakes are finished. Next stop......sand blasting of hubs and springs :cry:
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Looking good OZ the shaft is sitting central now,compared to the before picture where the shaft is off to one side.
I had not noticed that before. It looks like I now have the universal joint centered directly in line with the two pivot points. Glad I took this all apart.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:22 pm

Will get pics tomorrow, but the two hubs are blasted and primed. I'll install them with the tires tomorrow.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:18 pm

Hubs installed. I finished up the hubs today. The bearings are installed along with new inner oil seals. I installed the hubs, the inner and outer nuts and lock, then blasted , primed and installed my new flanges. I will include the manual locking hubs with the WC12 in case the owner wants to do that. I followed the manual procedure for setting the end play with the Weiss-Bendix universal axles. I ended up with 0.019" space when the flange is seated fully onto the axle. The manual calls for adding 0.020 shims for end play, or 0.039 total. The gaskets I added on one side were 0.042 thick. Owing for a bit of gasket compression I will be close to the manual spec. The right side was a bit less and I used the same procedure. No one seems to have the shims, so VPW recommended using gaskets.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:10 am

I installed the felt grease retainers/dirt seals on the knuckles. I'm not sure if this is THE approved solution, but it worked for me on one try.

1. permatex-ed the gasket
2. used electrical tape to hold the felt in place, placing oil on the felt under the tape so it would not stick. I left a long tail on the tape so I could pull it off without pulling out the felt.
3. trimmed off the excess felt , leaving about 1/8" extra for shrinkage/compression. I elected to keep it as one piece.
4. installed both felt retainers using only the center bolt and then carefully pulled out the tape keeping a finger left and right of the tape to prevent it from coming out
5. installed the center felt and cap over the seams.
6. torqued it down
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:22 am

Dust boots on the steering arm. What a royal pain in the beeeeep!

I'm just gonna STFU and say it with pics. There's probably a good tutorial somewhere, but this did not go smoothly. In the end I needed a series of clamps to mash everything together to get it to fit properly. I suspect soaking everything in oil would have been a better solution. DONE
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:25 am

Does anyone know what this is for? There was a loop wire connector installed with no wire on it. I suspect it connects to something for grounding or something.
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Post by Ernie Baals » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:52 pm

That is for the lower spring that hold tension on the flexible brake hose
The is another piece on the fender to hold the upper spring
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:58 pm

Thanks. I have it on the bottom side, but see on Zeph's resto that they are mounted on the bolt at the 10 position I am not sure what the two springs look like. Ill check with VPW.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:18 pm

Blasted and primed the springs today. Perhaps this weekend I can replace bushings, paint and assemble the front axle to the frame. This will be a major milestone for me :) I am very glad tht I took everything apart, checked the wear, fit and tolerance and assembled IAW the TM. I already have the differential sitting in the cleaning tank. My plan this winter will be:

differential
transmission
knee shocks
brake lines
fuel tank and lines

aaaand if I get those done I
l'll start on the engine
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Post by 17thAirborne » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:35 pm

I installed the bushings for the front shackles and reamed them to just over the OD of the pins. The front is ready for springs. I pressed out the bushings in the springs, both sides pressed out with no problem, one side pressed in with no problem, and the other holes are a bit larger than the bushings, by about 34-44 thousands.

The OD of the bushings are 0.875 and the ID of the spring eyes are 0.912 and 0.922

Can anyone recommend a solution for this problem?

Inserts?
Weld and drill?
Larger OD bushing reamed to match ID of original bushing?
New springs (probably over $200)?
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Post by 17thAirborne » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:47 pm

I could order these and machine the OD slightly or just press them in. The OD is 0.938.
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Post by zepher11 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:57 am

Hi Oz,

Not sure how one could shrink down the spring eye. I was wondering if heating the eye and then dipping it in cold water would have the desired effect? Of course, it's spring steel and I don't know my metallurgy at all.

Was looking at these springs. Are those the originals, or did you add some leafs? You may have mentioned what you did to these before and I likely missed it. I think my front springs on my half-tons have eight leafs, but they sure could used a pick me up after 75 plus years on the job:
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:33 am

zepher11 wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 7:57 am
Hi Oz,

Not sure how one could shrink down the spring eye. I was wondering if heating the eye and then dipping it in cold water would have the desired effect? Of course, it's spring steel and I don't know my metallurgy at all.

Was looking at these springs. Are those the originals, or did you add some leafs? You may have mentioned what you did to these before and I likely missed it. I think my front springs on my half-tons have eight leafs, but they sure could used a pick me up after 75 plus years on the job:
These look to have been modified in some way, and 11 leaves is sure different. Perhaps one of the previous owners did some work on them. I ordered the larger OD bushings and I'll see how they work. The ID is correct for the pins and we are only talking about a few 10 thou in the flexible portion of the spring eye. Worst case, i could have the OD of the bushings machined down a small bit to make the press a little less hefty. I'm just not sure what is TOO MUCH press fit for an eye bushing.
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Post by kelley » Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:35 pm

Hi,
Great job with the build,
it looks like you have a few extra leafs. Any machine shop could easily make you a a set of bushings,press them in and ream them for your pins. Did you replace the center bolts? If I remember correctly the 1/2 tons use 5/16 center bolts.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:33 pm

kelley wrote:
Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:35 pm
Hi,
Great job with the build,
it looks like you have a few extra leafs. Any machine shop could easily make you a a set of bushings,press them in and ream them for your pins. Did you replace the center bolts? If I remember correctly the 1/2 tons use 5/16 center bolts.
Thanks for the encouragement ! I have a local shop I can use to mod the bushings when they arrive. I do have the center bolts. Thanks for reminding me about that. I'll change them out. Thanks also for the support of the bigger bushings as a proper solution. Regarding the springs, I'll just use the one's I have unless I can source some good ones soon.
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