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Re: VC-6 Dodge CARRYALL Found

Post by Rory Grenier » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:53 pm

Wally will have one of the only very complete VC6, I think Chet had made his rear doors on his.


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Re: VC-6 Dodge CARRYALL Found

Post by Gordon_M » Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:55 pm

Morning Rory,

I have an 'as found' shot of Chet's VC6, which has the lift gate still in place. Not sure if the original tailgate is in the parts pile inside. If anyone isn't up on these things, the VC 6 trucks were hand-converted from panel vans, with the rear doors seemingly welded shut vertically and then split horizontally. They actually may have used more than one set of doors to get the big overlap.

The weak point of the setup is that they used the ordinary van door hinges, moved to liftgate and tailgate. While these hinges were plenty strong enough for van doors and even the liftagte, they were inadequate for the tailgate loadings, so the bigger cast hinges found on all subsequent Carryalls appeared.

I've seen some images of restored VC trucks that still need some work to get them right. Typical faults include the fitting of ordinary civilian fenders (VC fenders are radiused oval - same cutout height but wider across the bottom of the wheelarch) mismatched trim, wrong hinges, stuff like that.

It's still nice that restored VC trucks and candidates for restoration are out there, and the VC 6 survival rate, with three of 25 trucks made now found, is better thany I hoped.

The bigger brother, the VF, is common as a cab and chassis, but I've only seen one set of images of a really good restoration, Bart (Fleetmaster) in Holland.
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Re: VC-6 Dodge CARRYALL Found

Post by 68427vette » Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:06 am

post pics!!! sweet... dont know how far walley come on the vc,, he's a hoarder like me,, ha ha , and just got that vc open cab a few months ago,, makes 3-5 of them i think for him,, and it was 20 miles from my house,, !!!

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Post by Gordon_M » Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:27 am

I don't have that VC 6 pic here, but will post it when I run across it. I do tend to grab any VC or VF images that I see, but they are archived 200 miles away on the home PC.

One of the problems with VC and VF trucks is that you can't buy just one, you need two or three hulks to give you the bits to rebuild one good one.

So many of the bits are different to the half ton WC trucks, like the front axle and transmission, but you can rework them as hybrids. My VC 3 has the wrong engine, half ton WC front axle housing with Vc ends, and half ton WC transmission with the VC top plate and linkages, but I do have all the correct bits for it in storage.

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Post by Ernie Baals » Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:38 am

Hi
I remember the VC6 when Bob Yard brought it home, He owned it before Chet.
My dad had pictures someplace also. All the glass was broken, there was headliner material hanging down inside of it anf the rear fenders were smasdhed up pretty bad, But it did run and it had both tail gates, welded together from panel doors just as Gordon said.
Bob owned all of Chet's VCs, That is where Chet got them all. Bob had done some restoration work on them, he replaced all the glass in tha carryall and got it running and stopping, he had 2 complete running and driving VC3s, and most of the body work was do on the VC1 and VC5.
As Gordon stated it do not understand why most of these trucks have the wrong headlights on them, as well as a few other things.
Just as a fun note, at one point Wally had Chets carryall in his garage, so Wally had a 3 VC6s known in his hands :evil:

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VC-6 Dodge CARRYALL , and another thing.

Post by Gordon_M » Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:00 am

There are images of all three on the survivors list;

http://www.gwim2.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/vc200401.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

... there's only a range of about sixteen between the chassis numbers, and a range of forty-seven in the body tags. The reason there is such a range in the body tags is that they were all originally 4013-xxxx bodies - plain 1940 half ton panel vans, so they just took some van bodies to convert from a range bigger than the twenty-four production trucks. The chassis numbers are only about fifty chassis before Steve Greenberg's old VC-1, right towards the end of production.

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Post by Ernie Baals » Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:38 am

Hi Gordon
Thank you for posting the pictures.. :D
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Post by DDTrustee » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:54 pm

Gordon.......you still interested in the A-2 Oneida Mfg Photographic Trailer - pre-WWII. I think the guy may want to sell it now! His focus is changing.......I think you asked a few years back but Ihad already sold it by then.
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Re: VC-6 Dodge CARRYALL Found

Post by Gordon_M » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:46 pm

Hello Dan, and thanks for the thought.

I like the look of the trailer, but I'm relatively poor at the minute and have no cash even to ship it and nothing to tow it, so I'd better pass.

Thanks for the thought, and if the lottery kicks in I'll be right back to you.

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Re: VC-6 Dodge CARRYALL Found

Post by 68427vette » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:42 am

i d love to see he tailgates,, walley said they were barn doors welded then split??? jc

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Re: VC-6 Dodge CARRYALL Found

Post by Gordon_M » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:10 am

The VC 6 tailgate / liftgate setup was made from one or two pairs of van rear doors, and on the VC 6 van rear door hinges were used to mount them, which was fine for the liftgate but no use at all for the tailgate.

Weld a pair of van rear doors together down the centreline, and then cut them off just under the bodyline as the bodyline moulding overlaps, add a rectangular strip as the bottom face.

Using either the cut bottom sections, or another pair of doors welded and parted level with the top of the bodyline, re-sheet the outside face to form the tailgate and add a matching rectangular strip to form the top face of it.

The panelwork and hinges would be no problem, and I assume that the latch setup was adapted from the panel van doors too but don't have the details.

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Post by Rory Grenier » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:15 am

Couple photos of the back,

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Post by Gordon_M » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:29 am

Thanks for posting the images Rory.

You can see the relatively large ( ugly?) overlap at the bodyline, and notice the hinges, top and bottom, where you can see them, are just ordinary panel van rear door hinges. You can see where the joint is on the inside shot of the tailgate, but I'd guess the outside was either leaded or re-sheeted.
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Re: VC-6 Dodge CARRYALL Found

Post by Rory Grenier » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:55 pm

This VC-6 is now in the hands of Wally It left North Dakota last year.

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Re: VC-6 Dodge CARRYALL Found

Post by brian in denver » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:34 am

so whats the rest of the story ?

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