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Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by d42jeep » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:22 pm

I received a couple of orders from the auction site today. The most interesting and rare item was the tire pressure gauge. The only other one that I know of belongs to Hartofoak in the U.K. The FSN is 8-G-650 and it is a bit different from the TPG in the Jeep's on board toolset. The other items are two more D-I spark plug sockets, an 11/16" and a 3/4". I'm now only missing a couple to have a complete set.
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Schrader 8-G-650 tire pressure gauge
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Patent number markings
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Ordnance Dep't marking
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Month marking
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1945 marking
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TPG description
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D-I spark plug sockets.
1" = 41-W-3328
15/16" = 41-W-3327
7/8" = 41-W-3326
3/4" = 41-W-3324
11/16" = 41-W-3323
5/8" = 41-W-3322
9/16" = 41-W-3321
1/2" = 41-W-3320
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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by pjones » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:49 am

Don,
The date stamped on the TPG is too cool. I've not seen a date stamped gauge before. What size DI spark plug sockets do you still need?

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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by henry501 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:33 am

Don,

Awesome find. As Phil said very cool about the date stamp on the TPG. By the way which SNL Is that in your attached photo?

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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by d42jeep » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:56 am

Guys,
Thanks for your comments.
Phil, the two D-I sockets I'm missing are the 13/16" (41-W-3325) and the 1-1/8" (41-W-3329) if anybody should happen to run across one or the other.
Henry, the SNL is from July 1945. I am attaching a slightly wider image.
-Don
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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by henry501 » Fri Feb 17, 2017 8:59 pm

Don,

Thank you very much for the info. and for the larger and clearer photo of the SNL page.

Thank you,
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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by d42jeep » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:56 am

Here are a couple more upper echelon items that I've run across lately. One is a triangular scraper (41-S-760) similar to the one in my Machinists set. I've also found a few punches (41-P-3000) from the Trimmers set and the second echelon set 2.


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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by USAFpj » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:14 am

Nice. I love when them packages arrive! And that site gives my local flea market a pretty good run for the money sometimes.

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Post by Hartofoak » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:58 am

Hi Don. The chromium plated TPG in the attached thread photo is marked 8-G-650 (EDIT: 8-G-820), but it is not the same as your remarkable and I imagine very rare acquisition. Somewhere on this site is a long discussion about the two types of familiar gauges in relation to the 8-G-650 (EDIT: 8-G-620). Something to do with cold-weather use I recall. This is from my first post many moons ago ...
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Post by d42jeep » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:50 am

Cliff,
That post sure does go back a ways. I took a picture of the new gauge next to some of my others. My chrome civilian Schrader gauge most resembles the chrome one in your early post. From top to bottom they are a civilian Schrader, a couple of ORD Schraders, an ORD Druge and the upper echelon Schrader.
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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by Wingnutt » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:52 pm

Hi Don,
I keep finding those trimmers' set belt punches, too, but they all have 5 punches on the wheel, instead of 6. Pisses me off every time! :evil:

Hi Ciff,
The discussion you are remembering concerned a different gauge, namely, 8-G-620, which, like the 8-G-615, was a “general service type” gauge. The 8-G-620 was designed, per the 1949 ORD 7, for “zero weather zones.” This tire pressure gage is physically identical to the 8-G-615 on the outside. Whatever makes it more impervious to cold weather is on the inside. Luckily for collectors (or perhaps unluckily, depending on your point of view), it has the FSN (“8-G-620”) embossed on the neck of the gauge just above the nozzle. That thread, should anyone want to read it, is here: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=146163&start=15&hi ... ision+type

The 8-G-620 tire pressure gauge was introduced sometime between 2 August 1945, which is the last known wartime reference, in ORD 5-3-2, of the 8-G-615, and 15 October 1949, the first known reference, in ORD 7, of 8-G-620. These 8-G-620 gauges look the part, and they are perfect stand-ins, but they are post-war.

Here’s mine:

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The 8-G-650 is a bone fide wartime gauge. It was rated the same as the 8-G-615 – 10-60lbs/1lb, 60-160/5lbs. – but it was visibly physically different (as Don’s photos show), and referred to as a “precision type” gauge, as opposed to a “general service type” gauge, in the ORD 6 SNL G-27. Befitting that distinction, it was issued to all upper echelon units. The 8-G-615 was issued (in addition to vehicles for 1st Echelon level driver maintenance) only to the 3rd Echelon tool-set No. 1.





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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by Hartofoak » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:00 am

Don, I think I made a mistake in my reply up-post which Greg has thoughtfully corrected. I came across this thread with a 1943 dated example of your TPG:
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=146163#p846889
Like you I've been out to the garage and took a photo of a boxed, chromium plated, Schrader gauge that looks similar to the 8-G-650, was made in GB and which turn up quite often on the auction site. A patent - GB475891 is marked with others on the body and is dated 1938. I believe they were produced in the 1940's & 50's. I've put it alongside my Schrader 8-G-620 together with other U.S. Property TPG's from Schrader, Druse Bros, Syracuse and QMC.
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Post by d42jeep » Thu May 11, 2017 2:20 am

I found another possible upper echelon item last week that appears in the trimmer's set. It had quite a bit of surface rust that mostly came off in the vinegar bath. It turned out to be made by Osborne which is a brand mentioned on the similar punch in the NAF catalog.
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Osborne leather punch
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Post by d42jeep » Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:39 pm

Here is a tool that I've been looking for ever since putting together my Machinists set. It's a Starrett No460 41-R-2750 Rule, blacksmiths', steel, folding, length 36", 3 folds. All of the other found examples have been from General. I had an ongoing search on eBay and when one popped up on a buy it now, I did!
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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by henry501 » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:14 pm

Don,

Nice find! And for only $20.

Thank you,
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Re: Upper echelon items arrived today

Post by d42jeep » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:14 am

I was very surprised to see one pop up. The search had been active for a year and a half. I wasted no time buying it as I didn't want to let it get away. It required a bit of restoration before I took the pictures. Some of the numbers were obscured by an excess of "patina".
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