Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
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Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
Well the reassembly is now underway. The weather has held me up a few weekends, but I'm well on my way. I'm starting this new thread for most of my assembly questions.
My first question on this new thread is a painting question:
I'm installing the brake lines, master cylinder and such this weekend. I then plan to paint the brake lines, once they're mounted to the axles and was wondering if the flexible lines paint or not. In most of the pictures I've seen of other restorations, they are left unpainted. How did the come from the factory?
My first question on this new thread is a painting question:
I'm installing the brake lines, master cylinder and such this weekend. I then plan to paint the brake lines, once they're mounted to the axles and was wondering if the flexible lines paint or not. In most of the pictures I've seen of other restorations, they are left unpainted. How did the come from the factory?
Brett
1943 GPW S/N 115019
Hood Number: 20373197
Motorpool Restoration
DOD: May 7, 1943 (estimated)
Restoration Link:http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=200814
1943 GPW S/N 115019
Hood Number: 20373197
Motorpool Restoration
DOD: May 7, 1943 (estimated)
Restoration Link:http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=200814
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
Break lines must be unpainted, as I remember..
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
Try using the search function, this topic has been discussed a lot...
Brake lines would have been oversprayed with OD, after the assembly of the frame:
Brake lines would have been oversprayed with OD, after the assembly of the frame:
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
Carsten,
Is there a date attached on this picture?
Could this be a rebuilt project after the war?
Einar F.
Is there a date attached on this picture?
Could this be a rebuilt project after the war?
Einar F.
Willys MB 1944
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Willys MBT 1943
Bantam T3 1943
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
Just paint everything green...........got it.
Brett
1943 GPW S/N 115019
Hood Number: 20373197
Motorpool Restoration
DOD: May 7, 1943 (estimated)
Restoration Link:http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=200814
1943 GPW S/N 115019
Hood Number: 20373197
Motorpool Restoration
DOD: May 7, 1943 (estimated)
Restoration Link:http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=200814
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
That's an interesting photo of the two fellers painting the frame. The first thing I noticed was the lack of paint masks. That must be a very nice DeVilbiss Exhaust system paint booth they are working in.
And Gunny, you are right where I'm at in my project. Actually, you are a bit ahead of me. Your project is looking very nice. Good work! I had the same question on the brake lines. I finally decided to not worry about them. They will probably end up with some overspray as I know I will be making a number of paint touch ups and the lines are bound to end up with a little OD on them. Looking forward to watching your project progress.
If you don't mind, can I ask what color code OD you are using? Are you using 33070 or 319? Just curious. Man, I wish I could have found some front GPW leaf springs like you have. They look great.
Regards,
And Gunny, you are right where I'm at in my project. Actually, you are a bit ahead of me. Your project is looking very nice. Good work! I had the same question on the brake lines. I finally decided to not worry about them. They will probably end up with some overspray as I know I will be making a number of paint touch ups and the lines are bound to end up with a little OD on them. Looking forward to watching your project progress.
If you don't mind, can I ask what color code OD you are using? Are you using 33070 or 319? Just curious. Man, I wish I could have found some front GPW leaf springs like you have. They look great.
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
I'm using 33070 OD paint on my GPW. As far as the GPW springs, don't tell anyone, but three are oringinal GPW F marked springs and one set is a reproduction I made out of a set of MB springs. From 5' away you can't tell, but a Jeep guy can see it if he looks at them close enough.zepher11 wrote:That's an interesting photo of the two fellers painting the frame. The first thing I noticed was the lack of paint masks. That must be a very nice DeVilbiss Exhaust system paint booth they are working in.
And Gunny, you are right where I'm at in my project. Actually, you are a bit ahead of me. Your project is looking very nice. Good work! I had the same question on the brake lines. I finally decided to not worry about them. They will probably end up with some overspray as I know I will be making a number of paint touch ups and the lines are bound to end up with a little OD on them. Looking forward to watching your project progress.
If you don't mind, can I ask what color code OD you are using? Are you using 33070 or 319? Just curious. Man, I wish I could have found some front GPW leaf springs like you have. They look great.
Regards,
I fabricated the 4 U-clips, drilled and heat treated them myself. The MB springs were all (except the bottom one) square ended and were the beveled type. They also had the rivet holes already in the right spots. I mitered the ends, hot riveted the U-clips on, put together, painted and viola.....GPW Springs. I'll probably change them when a "real" set comes along, but they'll do. Looking at the pictures above, I doubt anyone can pick them out.
Brett
1943 GPW S/N 115019
Hood Number: 20373197
Motorpool Restoration
DOD: May 7, 1943 (estimated)
Restoration Link:http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=200814
1943 GPW S/N 115019
Hood Number: 20373197
Motorpool Restoration
DOD: May 7, 1943 (estimated)
Restoration Link:http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=200814
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
Einar,
Sorry, don't have a date for that picture, but i would estimate 1942 due to the fat rear drive shaft and the early type engine dip stick...
Sorry, don't have a date for that picture, but i would estimate 1942 due to the fat rear drive shaft and the early type engine dip stick...
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
I'm using 33070 as well. Looks great. Excellent job on the leafs...very nice work. I won't tell...TheGunny wrote:I'm using 33070 OD paint on my GPW. As far as the GPW springs, don't tell anyone, but three are oringinal GPW F marked springs and one set is a reproduction I made out of a set of MB springs. From 5' away you can't tell, but a Jeep guy can see it if he looks at them close enough.
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
A few more pictures, related to the initial question:
Brake lines and linkage during installation appears unpainted:
Brake lines after frame assembly overspray. Looks mostly OD, but hard-to-reach places, like under the MG crossmember appears unpainted (don't think the paint guys in the first picture bothered to crawl under the frame to spray the inside of the crossmember). Note that the fuel line and the wiring harness is unpainted, hence installed after the body was painted:
Again, brake lines appears painted:
Brake lines and linkage during installation appears unpainted:
Brake lines after frame assembly overspray. Looks mostly OD, but hard-to-reach places, like under the MG crossmember appears unpainted (don't think the paint guys in the first picture bothered to crawl under the frame to spray the inside of the crossmember). Note that the fuel line and the wiring harness is unpainted, hence installed after the body was painted:
Again, brake lines appears painted:
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
Looking at these pictures, it looks like the paint guys were not that thorough in prepping the metal ( beneath the fill plug on the Diff & the knuckle joints) and the various spots where the is either no paint or just a little. I wonder if they gave these things one more shot of paint before they left the factory for good!
It almost looks like to do a proper "factory" restoration, the paint job should look like crap!
It almost looks like to do a proper "factory" restoration, the paint job should look like crap!
Brett
1943 GPW S/N 115019
Hood Number: 20373197
Motorpool Restoration
DOD: May 7, 1943 (estimated)
Restoration Link:http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=200814
1943 GPW S/N 115019
Hood Number: 20373197
Motorpool Restoration
DOD: May 7, 1943 (estimated)
Restoration Link:http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=200814
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
...or perhaps oil and lubricants were filled after assembly and painting?TheGunny wrote:Looking at these pictures, it looks like the paint guys were not that thorough in prepping the metal ( beneath the fill plug on the Diff & the knuckle joints) and the various spots where the is either no paint or just a little. I wonder if they gave these things one more shot of paint before they left the factory for good!
It almost looks like to do a proper "factory" restoration, the paint job should look like crap!
Whatever the case, pictures like these confirm the fact, that wartime jeeps in no way left the factory with the perfect, polished and spit-shined appearance many restorers refer to as "factory-class"! Stains of oil and greasy fingers are everywhere, and there would most likely have been small differences in the color appearance of many of the parts on the vehicle, due to the wide difference of subcontractors used for parts manufacture!
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They certainly didn't rub the paint down between coats. On original tubs, I have seen lots of runs. They were painted more like you'd do a piece of earthmoving equipment than a passenger car.
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
The photo, with the grill, is a VEP as there is no notch in the top center. I have the same grill and it's from March, 1942. I also have the same 2 piece armor configuration as shown in the photo.
I am just starting to put parts back on the frame. I had the differentials rebuilt but have to installed the axles, brakes, drums and hubs. The engine should be back from the machinist next week.
I am just starting to put parts back on the frame. I had the differentials rebuilt but have to installed the axles, brakes, drums and hubs. The engine should be back from the machinist next week.
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Re: Motorpool Restoration GPW 115019
Brett,
Your project is looking terrific. YOu have done an excellent job especially on those springs. I also am using the 33070 OD.
The Mullins open house is this coming weekend off Hwy 6 outside of College Station across from Texas Motor Speedway. There will be vehicle displays of armor and jeeps as well as reenactments. I plan on going and so is StirStick.
Carsten, thanks very much for posting the pictures. Makes me feel a lot more comfortable about any paint runs and other imperfections on the jeep!
Your project is looking terrific. YOu have done an excellent job especially on those springs. I also am using the 33070 OD.
The Mullins open house is this coming weekend off Hwy 6 outside of College Station across from Texas Motor Speedway. There will be vehicle displays of armor and jeeps as well as reenactments. I plan on going and so is StirStick.
Carsten, thanks very much for posting the pictures. Makes me feel a lot more comfortable about any paint runs and other imperfections on the jeep!
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