Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

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Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by David Keeler » Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:57 pm

Has anyone ever seen a metal document holder attatxhwd to underside of Willy’s mb?

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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by 1943Willysgpw » Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:41 pm

What does it look like? Do you have a picture? the reason I ask is because my VEP had some sort of something welded on the hood brace that looked like a giant paper clip. I am sure it was a field mod or a bubba. Just wondering.
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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by mattymajors » Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:56 pm

Here’s what’s on mine. Image


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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by 1943Willysgpw » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:20 pm

It is welded on? Wow. Thank you for the picture. It clears up that mine was obviously a bubba or private Pyle thing.
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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by mattymajors » Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:02 pm

I think there are little studs welded on that it’s bolted to


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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by David Keeler » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:10 am

1943Willysgpw wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:41 pm
What does it look like? Do you have a picture? the reason I ask is because my VEP had some sort of something welded on the hood brace that looked like a giant paper clip. I am sure it was a field mod or a bubba. Just wondering.
bolted on through the top, like the picture of the red jeep just posted..

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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by Fabrizio » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:04 am

My VEP has a 2 strap holder, machine screws on one dide, welds where it meets the center fold of the hood
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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by jeepfinger » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:14 am

1943Willysgpw wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:41 pm
the reason I ask is because my VEP had some sort of something welded on the hood brace that looked like a giant paper clip. I am sure it was a field mod or a bubba. Just wondering.
I'm sure that, that is a field mod, there is some is information on Jeepdraw about the Lube holder.

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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by Fabrizio » Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:29 am

It might be a depot thing, mine has been through a US gov rebuild program
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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by jeepfinger » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:25 am

Hi all,
Just been doing a little reading. I do hope that David doesn't mind me putting this on here, as he did ask about a MB lube holder?

For Gpw's, it states in the Judging guide that, A lube chart holder was added to the underside around November or early December 1943. It doesn't say what type, but I would think it was the one piece one.
In AAW Vol 1, there is a drawing, in the parts anyone can make, that shows a 3 piece holder, and the 1 piece holder. It states that the 3 piece is a Ford only item, and the 1 piece for the MB. I haven't got my Farley book to check if John had any photo's of them.
I haven't got a lube holder, and my hood hasn't been drilled for it, so i'm not fitting one.
Hope this helps, or it may make things more confusing :?
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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by David Keeler » Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:47 am

The more info the better:) Thanks!
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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by jeepfinger » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:25 am

:) Amen,
David, I guess that your MB needs one? There s a drawing in AAW Vol 1, but I don't think that they are that easy to make, and you need to get the 2 rubber bungs. Did you have a look on Jeepdraw? it shows them.

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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by 1943Willysgpw » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:45 am

David Keeler wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:10 am
1943Willysgpw wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2017 2:41 pm
What does it look like? Do you have a picture? the reason I ask is because my VEP had some sort of something welded on the hood brace that looked like a giant paper clip. I am sure it was a field mod or a bubba. Just wondering.
bolted on through the top, like the picture of the red jeep just posted..
No. It was welded to the cowling side support. It did not look "professional" by any stretch.
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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by GI. » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:09 am

Here's a few pic's of the one on my 1943 GPW, it look's like it has had some pretty rough repairs on it, it was on the jeep when I got it.
It is put on with screw's.
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Re: Document holder welded to underside of MB hood

Post by jeepfinger » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:14 pm

The type that GI posted, is the same that is shown in AAW Vol 1

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