ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
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ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
g'day, gentlemen,
I have two friends here, each one restoring a wrecker... they are 1944 trucks...
I would be SO happy to receive pictures of your ORIGINAL data plates and USA numbers (if original): we have here the trucks' frame numbers, and we can sort some kind of USA NUMBERS, but we have no idea about the delivery dates (other than them being 54xxxx, and thus 1944 models (5).
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
maurizio
I have two friends here, each one restoring a wrecker... they are 1944 trucks...
I would be SO happy to receive pictures of your ORIGINAL data plates and USA numbers (if original): we have here the trucks' frame numbers, and we can sort some kind of USA NUMBERS, but we have no idea about the delivery dates (other than them being 54xxxx, and thus 1944 models (5).
THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!
maurizio
1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
btt,... any suggestion then?
tks
maurizio
tks
maurizio
1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
I got all the listing of USA Reg #,Contract # and Acceptances by the US army for M1A1 series 5 if you want
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
Thank you, but i think I have them. They were on a SNL ORD 9 manual and on an after-war government publication. They were also printed badly on the manual....
They were also on Wheels&Tracks #3 and on a Tankograd publication.
Problem is that there are some confusion on those s/n'è if you closely look at them...
And the ONLY way is to look at original data plates...
Thank you!
Maurizio
They were also on Wheels&Tracks #3 and on a Tankograd publication.
Problem is that there are some confusion on those s/n'è if you closely look at them...
And the ONLY way is to look at original data plates...
Thank you!
Maurizio
1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
What is this "after war government publication "?
You got all the number from 1943 to 1945 ?
How a WLF M1A1 chassis number is composed ?
For CCKW 353 is for example CCKW353 127203 A2
For Diamond T 969A it's 969A2660
Whats the form for a WLF chassis number ?
You got all the number from 1943 to 1945 ?
How a WLF M1A1 chassis number is composed ?
For CCKW 353 is for example CCKW353 127203 A2
For Diamond T 969A it's 969A2660
Whats the form for a WLF chassis number ?
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
I meant the Ordnance Departmemt Administrative and Tactical Vehicles list, for years '40-'44...
chassis' numbers are 6 "W" then 6 digits - beginning with series 5, first digit is the model, second digit is the year
thus, you don't have any WLF original data plate, correct?
tks
maurizio
chassis' numbers are 6 "W" then 6 digits - beginning with series 5, first digit is the model, second digit is the year
thus, you don't have any WLF original data plate, correct?
tks
maurizio
1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
I got the Ordnance Departmemt Administrative and Tactical Vehicles list, for years '40-'1945
The 1944 one is uncomplete and contain somemistakes...Some contract for WLF are missing in the 1944 one ... But i can give you a correct list with CORRECT contract no et and correct Reg number from Series 1 to Series 5 ...But it's as you want
Don't referring always to the 1st january 1944,most of the 1943/1944 contract in this register are only "plan" and do not reflect reality
Edition of 1st october 1945 is better
You can send me a pic of a ward la france data plates
So chassis numbers for 1944 Series 5number 2067 is "WWWWWW542067" ?
The 1944 one is uncomplete and contain somemistakes...Some contract for WLF are missing in the 1944 one ... But i can give you a correct list with CORRECT contract no et and correct Reg number from Series 1 to Series 5 ...But it's as you want
Don't referring always to the 1st january 1944,most of the 1943/1944 contract in this register are only "plan" and do not reflect reality
Edition of 1st october 1945 is better
You can send me a pic of a ward la france data plates
So chassis numbers for 1944 Series 5number 2067 is "WWWWWW542067" ?
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
yes, if you have a newer edition, that would be appreciated... with the datas I have it's almost impossible to assess an USA # starting from serial number only...
mmhhmm... no, it was intended to be a "dot" after the "6" in my sentence:
ciao
maurizio
mmhhmm... no, it was intended to be a "dot" after the "6" in my sentence:
like: "W 542067"...chassis' numbers are 6 [DOT] "W" then 6 digits - beginning with series 5, first digit is the model, second digit is the year
ciao
maurizio
1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
Here it is
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
ok. thanks...
but I guess I still have a problem.
my question was: HOW to put an USA # beside a serial number... 'cause I only have a serial number (when you have a truck...).
on ORD 9 SNL G-116 I had partial matching between those two series of datas. on my edition of Ordnance Departmemt Administrative and Tactical Vehicles list, for years '40-'44, still I have uncorrect informations...
on your file, I might probably have correct details about contracts and USA numbers,... but I don't see any reference to serial numbers... thus, how to solve my initial problem??
...I will probably need what I firstly required: pictures of original data plates!
ciao
maurizio
but I guess I still have a problem.
my question was: HOW to put an USA # beside a serial number... 'cause I only have a serial number (when you have a truck...).
on ORD 9 SNL G-116 I had partial matching between those two series of datas. on my edition of Ordnance Departmemt Administrative and Tactical Vehicles list, for years '40-'44, still I have uncorrect informations...
on your file, I might probably have correct details about contracts and USA numbers,... but I don't see any reference to serial numbers... thus, how to solve my initial problem??
...I will probably need what I firstly required: pictures of original data plates!
ciao
maurizio
1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
At the time it's impossible to determine a USA REG NO by the chassis number, because there is no logical numerical sequence following.. We don't know how the USA REG NUM was applied on WLF M1A1 at the factory exit.. On the assembly line,on a park after assembly.. We don't knowpierino wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:34 pmok. thanks...
but I guess I still have a problem.
my question was: HOW to put an USA # beside a serial number... 'cause I only have a serial number (when you have a truck...).
on ORD 9 SNL G-116 I had partial matching between those two series of datas. on my edition of Ordnance Departmemt Administrative and Tactical Vehicles list, for years '40-'44, still I have uncorrect informations...
on your file, I might probably have correct details about contracts and USA numbers,... but I don't see any reference to serial numbers... thus, how to solve my initial problem??
...I will probably need what I firstly required: pictures of original data plates!
ciao
maurizio
I just have range of chassis number corresponding to usa reg no
I can determine in which range of usa reg no was a chassis number
But i don't have full data
For some of the last contract data are missing and i'm open to get these info
546911 is the lastest WLF M1A1 Series 5 chassis number i've (first m1a1 contract)
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Re: ATTN Ward La France M1A1 series 5 OWNERS!
back to the first question then: do you have an image of an original data plate 8maybe more)?
thank you
maurizio
thank you
maurizio
1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness
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