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mud track question
Guys, below is a link that will take you to two pictures of a scale model resin add-on of dual front wheels with tracks and tracks to go around the dualys on a WWII CCKW. Any of you ever seen this before?
http://www.armorscale.com/products/resin/R35-033/
---before you guys get miffed that I didn't post the photos here out of laziness, I cannot post photos to the photobucket because the Army has decided that I don't really need to do that.
http://www.armorscale.com/products/resin/R35-033/
---before you guys get miffed that I didn't post the photos here out of laziness, I cannot post photos to the photobucket because the Army has decided that I don't really need to do that.
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They are Hipkins devices. They were issued and used during WWII. The 152 Field Artillery used them regularly during their jungle hop across the South Pacific. They would be installed during soft going and found to work best on their CCKWs while in reverse. They were frequently advertised by the older surplus dealers of the 40s-60s. We still have a crated set stored away somewhere. They will be donated to a museum along with my CCKW sometime in the years to come. They are very heavy and take up a lot of room. A set must weigh the better part of a ton.
They are featured on one of the WWII Training Films availible at Vintage Video. They are an expedient and not safe or practical in paved surfaces.
They are featured on one of the WWII Training Films availible at Vintage Video. They are an expedient and not safe or practical in paved surfaces.
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Hipkins devise
So to mount them did you drive over a set of "open" tracks and then connect them together? How was the tension adjusted?
And anyone got some pictures of a set not mounted to see how they were made?
And anyone got some pictures of a set not mounted to see how they were made?
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Each individual Grouser has a tension bolt, they are hooked together. They are featured in the , paperback WWII GMC by Becker.
They are long gone from surplus dealer inventory. Todays' scrap iron prices is thinning them out, shipping is costly.
They are long gone from surplus dealer inventory. Todays' scrap iron prices is thinning them out, shipping is costly.
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Ben, when you refer to 152 Field Artillery, are you refering to a unit designation?
CCKWs would have pulled a 105mm cannon, but probably nothing bigger, right?
I would enjoy seeing a photo or video, thanks for the comments!
CCKWs would have pulled a 105mm cannon, but probably nothing bigger, right?
I would enjoy seeing a photo or video, thanks for the comments!
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The 152 Field Artillery is a Maine Batallion. They were federalized in 1941 and fought in the Pacific. The 75mm and 105mm Howitzer was their weapon. CWO Joseph DeRoche was awarded the Bronze Star for volunteering to go out in a landing craft with a howitzer behind a Jeep and shell a Japanese troop vessel. He commented that the "Landing craft liked to have swamped every time I fired the gun". He passed away in 1986. I am not sure if he was firing a 75 or 105. His Battery comprised many old friends, Lonnie Tasker was a cook and was decorated for driving his CCKW kitchen truck under Japanese mortar fire to rescue a fellow soldier stranded in a field. Lonnie described the use of the traction device on his CCKW. These old friends were just local yokels called up with their hometown National Guard unit to serve when their country called. Lonnie witnessed a USMC Corsair land on the uncompleted airstrip at Munda and get mired. It was exciting to know these gentlemen and experience their first hand war storiers 40 years before they were read in WWII history books. The Corsair event is well known to WWII Naval Aviation enthusiasts.
Vintage Video should have films shoiwing the use of the traction devices.
Vintage Video should have films shoiwing the use of the traction devices.
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thanks Ben
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I only wish these guys were stillaround. CWO Deroche was always selected to fire the 75 mm Howitzer for the Governor of Maine during his visit to the troops at Annual Training. He retired in 1976 after 41 years in the National Guard. He started as a Stable Boy in 1935. Joe was agood mentor and allowed me to crawl over all those nice CCKWs, MBs and new M-38s in my younger days. Joe was the Batallion Maintenance supervisor from 1949-1976.
Lonnie Tasker, aka "Hot Top Lonnie", was the Rodman on my highway survey crew. Every day had a WWII story. He put thousands of miles on the same CCKW kitchen truck from 42-45. Had to have the rear axles changed once after it swung into the ship during offloading during a landing.
Lonnie Tasker, aka "Hot Top Lonnie", was the Rodman on my highway survey crew. Every day had a WWII story. He put thousands of miles on the same CCKW kitchen truck from 42-45. Had to have the rear axles changed once after it swung into the ship during offloading during a landing.
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Re: mud track question
Lonnie explained that during night driving operation that the drivers having eyeglasses would be assistant drivers.
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You can use the G's photo hosting site: http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/
I know there have been other companies supplying these tracks since the war, and usually the tension is created by deflating the tires, installing the tracks, then re-inflating the tires (from memory of previous research)
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I know there have been other companies supplying these tracks since the war, and usually the tension is created by deflating the tires, installing the tracks, then re-inflating the tires (from memory of previous research)
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Re: mud track question
The track tension is adjustable. I have the manual for them but it is stored at another location.
Those of you who have WWII TM's on Tire Maintenance will find some information on the traction devices in them.
Those of you who have WWII TM's on Tire Maintenance will find some information on the traction devices in them.
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Re: mud track question
Here are two videos of a Jimmy with tracks. I like the training video best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZg5kwqF06k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKwLg8RXbCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZg5kwqF06k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKwLg8RXbCs
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Re: mud track question
Common experience for those units serving in the jungles of the Pacific. There was no easy way, those tracks were heavy and had to be manhandled on and off and stowed for the next use.
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Link to the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZg5kwq ... ature=fvwp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZg5kwq ... ature=fvwp
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