75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

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75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by TadeO » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:10 am

Hi, there was halftrack version T19 (I pressume) which used above 75 mm gun on it. Does anyone know if there is a reproduction on the marked or anything else can be used instead that looks very similar. Any thought are welcome.
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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by W. Winget » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:06 am

Are you asking if they used guns larger than 75mm on a halftrack?
If so, maybe only in testing but not production as far as I know. (I'm WRONG! :oops: 1500 T-19's were produced, thanks Tranham) 105mm packs a whalop in recoil and almost sunk the DUKW when fired from that.
They may have used the light 105mm airborne gun (on the Pack 75mm carriage) but again it wasn't a mass produced item that I know of. (Nope :oops: I know better now....)

Best scene for a 75mm (T-19 105mm my final :oops: ) on Halftrack is Kelly Heros when they drive through the barn with it then just go on through the other side. I Love that brute force display, but would hate to have to clean out the track afterward.
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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by tranham » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:09 am

T19 105mm in Kelly’s heroes

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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by W. Winget » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:56 am

Thanks for setting me straight on that. Apparenlty only held 8 rounds of 105mm in the track, must have rattled your cage when you fired and were inside the hull.
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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by Dave Pojta » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:51 am

There is no doubt that the scenes in Kelly's Heroes involving the "T 19" HalfTracks were absolutely amazing, (as were a lot of the other quite unique military vehicle scenes), but remember that these were not "real" T19's as they were based on International HalfTracks and no such variant of this make of HalfTrack existed during WW2 that mounted the incredible 105 mm gun. I am presuming that the Kelly's Heroes versions of the T19 were made post WW2 by, or for, the Yugoslav Army, some of whose enormous cache of authentic WW2 U.S. military vehicles were used for the movie - no half-made, fibre-glass replicas towed along by an SUV with a camera in the back, here !!!!

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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by DAVY » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:27 pm

I have a t 19. It holds 8 grounds they made 324 of them 90 were converted to M3 I don’t know how to post on the g so if you email I will send you some great pic of my toys great eye candy I drive my tracks over Vz up 3rd ave through Brooklyn battery tunnel then up west side and I do the Veterans Day parade For the past 13 years

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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by robbert » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:48 pm

here are some pictures of ihc halftrack t19 used by the canadians in the liberation of holland.
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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by Lester Senn » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:23 am

Robbert, your pictures are not a T19 105 mm HMC halftrack but an interesting field conversion of an International Harvester M14 MGMC twin 50 cal in a M33 turret gun mount to use the M1897A4 75 mm gun and shield from a M3 75mm GMC by the Canadians. The M14 was supplied as Lend/Lease by the US to the British and Canadians who removed the mg mounts and converted them to standard personal carriers. As to TadeO,s OP the US made 2 75mm armed halftracks in WW2. The M3 75mm GMC ( Gun Motor Carriage ) armed with the 75 mm M1897A4 gun a updated version of the famous French 75 used in WW1 and first fielded as a tank destroyer. The second 75mm armed halftrack was the T30 75mm HMC (Howitzer Motor Carriage ) armed with the lightweight short barreled M1A1 pack howitzer. You can find pictures online of both by searching for T30 75mm HMC and M3 75mm GMC.
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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by TadeO » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:37 am

Very interesting and useful information. Following it I came with one question - those M3s that were Lend Leased to Russia during WW2, were they equiped with 75 or 105 mm guns? Or both types were sent?
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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by Lester Senn » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:25 am

TadeO , the only White M3 halftracks to go to Russia were the T48 eguipped with the British 6 lbr gun. As far as I can find the Russians never received any T19 105mm or either of the two 75mm eguipped halftracks. Most of the halftracks sent to Russia were the International Harvester produced M5 and M9 series vehicles. The Russians called the T48 the SU57. They received 650 of them. The US used the British 6 lbr gun under the model name as 57mm gun M1 in towed use only.
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Re: 75 mm gun for m3a1 halftrack

Post by DAVY » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:05 pm

If you go to Davy rupa and friend On you tube you can see my t 19 Halftrack

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