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Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
Hello Zeph,
I'm in Brazil, and here there is no Mark 2 model trailer for sale.
So I would like to play one to go to the parades and celebrations.
Could you help me with some measures I need?
Thanks
Alexandre
I'm in Brazil, and here there is no Mark 2 model trailer for sale.
So I would like to play one to go to the parades and celebrations.
Could you help me with some measures I need?
Thanks
Alexandre
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
This can easy be fixed to a working 3 hole swivvel.....
Jon made the lower one from 3 pieces of 12mm steel and 2 disks of 6mm.
You already have 3 pieces, you only need 2 12mm pcs.
I fixed several myself. Welding in a few bits of cut out 12mm (bend) plate.
Remko
G503 1943 MB
G622 198628 (matching) U.S.N 107917 (04-15-44 Louisville KY)
G529 Bantam T3 B50633 CX 5713957 serial# 20556 d.o.d. 03-01-1943 (est) With original tandem hitch and 10CWT conversion.
G529 Bantam T3 120745
G529 Willys MBT 111984 (sold)
G503 1943 MB
G622 198628 (matching) U.S.N 107917 (04-15-44 Louisville KY)
G529 Bantam T3 B50633 CX 5713957 serial# 20556 d.o.d. 03-01-1943 (est) With original tandem hitch and 10CWT conversion.
G529 Bantam T3 120745
G529 Willys MBT 111984 (sold)
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
I ended up finding a replacement, but that's a great idea.
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
Hi,
nice to see both hooks facing the same way.....
i can remember mine facing 1 foreward and the other backwards.....
Picture below the hooks are oriented same way and wedges also.
To mount them to the trailer 1 wedge has to face an opposite direction, forcing the hook to turn 180 degree also.
Are there left and right wegde-chain-hooks?? (Not mentioned in the TM-10-1281 or SNL only WO-A-6392 No. Req. 2.)
Think they were produced ad random.
nice to see both hooks facing the same way.....
i can remember mine facing 1 foreward and the other backwards.....
Picture below the hooks are oriented same way and wedges also.
To mount them to the trailer 1 wedge has to face an opposite direction, forcing the hook to turn 180 degree also.
Are there left and right wegde-chain-hooks?? (Not mentioned in the TM-10-1281 or SNL only WO-A-6392 No. Req. 2.)
Think they were produced ad random.
Remko
G503 1943 MB
G622 198628 (matching) U.S.N 107917 (04-15-44 Louisville KY)
G529 Bantam T3 B50633 CX 5713957 serial# 20556 d.o.d. 03-01-1943 (est) With original tandem hitch and 10CWT conversion.
G529 Bantam T3 120745
G529 Willys MBT 111984 (sold)
G503 1943 MB
G622 198628 (matching) U.S.N 107917 (04-15-44 Louisville KY)
G529 Bantam T3 B50633 CX 5713957 serial# 20556 d.o.d. 03-01-1943 (est) With original tandem hitch and 10CWT conversion.
G529 Bantam T3 120745
G529 Willys MBT 111984 (sold)
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
I believe I cut the chains and added some links to make them original looking. At that time I flipped one of the hooks around. When I went to first hook them up, they were too short.
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
Hi
Just for information if you need From FRANCE
I have 5 couples of original chains oriented in the same way and wedge also from original Willys MBT Early and Bantam too.
Don’t cut them.
Just for information if you need From FRANCE
I have 5 couples of original chains oriented in the same way and wedge also from original Willys MBT Early and Bantam too.
Don’t cut them.
slowness equal accuracy, accurary equal speed !!!!!!
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
Here are my supposed original MBT trailer chains. Just a tad short. I think they shrank over the years:
They did fit like a glove. Only problem was if one wanted to actually turn the vehicle, something would have to give. Not sure what exactly. Most likely the chain itself would have been the weak link...pun intended:
I think I had to redo the one side after I realized the hooks were opposite of each other:
They did fit like a glove. Only problem was if one wanted to actually turn the vehicle, something would have to give. Not sure what exactly. Most likely the chain itself would have been the weak link...pun intended:
I think I had to redo the one side after I realized the hooks were opposite of each other:
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
Always hook in from underside.
And tilt the eye-bolts inside a little up.
Should work just fine.
Remko
G503 1943 MB
G622 198628 (matching) U.S.N 107917 (04-15-44 Louisville KY)
G529 Bantam T3 B50633 CX 5713957 serial# 20556 d.o.d. 03-01-1943 (est) With original tandem hitch and 10CWT conversion.
G529 Bantam T3 120745
G529 Willys MBT 111984 (sold)
G503 1943 MB
G622 198628 (matching) U.S.N 107917 (04-15-44 Louisville KY)
G529 Bantam T3 B50633 CX 5713957 serial# 20556 d.o.d. 03-01-1943 (est) With original tandem hitch and 10CWT conversion.
G529 Bantam T3 120745
G529 Willys MBT 111984 (sold)
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
10-4. They were so short, I don't think I could hook them from underneath at that time. Barely reached it with the hook as it was when I shot this photo. They fit fine from underneath after I lengthen the two chains.
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
Over the years, guys have "modified" the chain lengths or bought new chain and installed it on wedges and hooks. While they may have the correct 2 long/9 shorter configuration, the measurements for the individual lengths they used can cause the end product to be too short or too long.
When you have the correct lengths of the two end lengths and the nine middle lengths, the hooks will not reach the ground either.
Chuck Lutz
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Bantam T3-C 1947
GPW 17963 4/24/42 Chester, PA. USA 20113473 (USA est./Tom W.)
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
slowness equal accuracy, accurary equal speed !!!!!!
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
I displayed my '43 MBT trailer in the local historical society museum for Veterans Day through Christmas. They wanted a little write up on the trailer. I didn't know they would put it in their newsletter. Wrote it in about 3 minutes. Likely not historically accurate:
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
Great write up on the trailers Zeph !zepher11 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2023 2:54 pmI displayed my '43 MBT trailer in the local historical society museum for Veterans Day through Christmas. They wanted a little write up on the trailer. I didn't know they would put it in their newsletter. Wrote it in about 3 minutes. Likely not historically accurate:
Well done, clear and concise .
Looks like it was a great display event and maybe it sparked some interest by new people interested in WW2 vehicles and their history, to find and restore a trailer or jeep someday.
Best Regards,
Ray
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Re: Zeph's 1943 Willys MBT Trailer
Do you have this article in Text /word Format.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Remko
G503 1943 MB
G622 198628 (matching) U.S.N 107917 (04-15-44 Louisville KY)
G529 Bantam T3 B50633 CX 5713957 serial# 20556 d.o.d. 03-01-1943 (est) With original tandem hitch and 10CWT conversion.
G529 Bantam T3 120745
G529 Willys MBT 111984 (sold)
G503 1943 MB
G622 198628 (matching) U.S.N 107917 (04-15-44 Louisville KY)
G529 Bantam T3 B50633 CX 5713957 serial# 20556 d.o.d. 03-01-1943 (est) With original tandem hitch and 10CWT conversion.
G529 Bantam T3 120745
G529 Willys MBT 111984 (sold)
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